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Al_Miller
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« on: August 19, 2010, 09:18:59 PM »

At the August 25th BOE Meeting they will be awarding a Request for Proposal #2-10 dealing with Sports and Co-Curricular Activities. So an update cost should be given on the Sports and Co-Curricular. As always come out and have your voice heard. The Public Portion of the Meeting starts at 8pm at MSN.

 http://www.howell.k12.nj.us/files/events/3381/AGENDA%2008-25-10.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2010, 04:10:52 PM »

I sure hope there will be some discusion by the full board on this.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2010, 09:29:08 PM »

Count on it!   Grin
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2010, 07:15:32 AM »

I recieved this as an email from a google group. I removed the persons name who wrote from it for their privacy.


The agenda for this Wed. regular board meeting has been revised, specifically regarding the award of the contract for sports/clubs.  Instead of the contract award being based on the Education Committee's recommendation, it is on the Ad Hoc Shared Services Committee's recommendation (see below).  The Ad Hoc Shared Services Committee meets tomorrow (Tues.) at 4:15 pm in the administration building.

The Policy Committee meeting will take place per my earlier email. 

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600-2. Award Request For Proposal RFP #2-10 Sports and Award

Co-Curricular Activities to_____________, Howell, NJ, in RFP #2-10

accordance with the recommendation to be given by the Sports and

Ad-Hoc Shared Services Committee. Co-Curricular

Activities

 

http://www.howell.k12.nj.us/files/events/3442/AD%20HOC%20SHARED%20SERVICES%20COMMITTEE%20MEETING%20NOTICE.pdf

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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2010, 05:07:50 PM »

If they have not meet to review all the RFP's and make a recommendation to review them with the Board how do they know the group being concidered is from Howell,NJ. as is states in the wording?
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2010, 12:59:40 AM »

Both organizations that submitted an rfp were from Howell ...no others answered the  rfp
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2010, 05:00:37 AM »

Thanks Al
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2010, 12:44:56 PM »

As a member of the share services committee we met las night and the RFP'S were presented to us as well as the bids for the first time. I asked whey this was the first time we has an opportunity to review these and was told the education committee was suppose to review them and was unable to do so so we were presented with them. As one you has over 25 years contracting experience how in the world can i accurately review something as important as this at a moments notice. I requested an extension in order for me to review the information and offer my comments later. I was turned down because the bids have to go to the full board at tonights meeting and voted on. Having said that I could not offer a true opinion either way and my position was if this this the way it has to be then I can not comment and suggest the entire mater be handled by the full board tonight. I sincerely hope the full board reviews these RFP'S with a fine tooth comb and has some serious discussion. I still don't understand rush to get this passed but than again I am not a board member so they have to decide. Their are a few things in the RFP'S that need to be closely examined and taken out like peer tutoring. I would strongly suggest that this be held over for till the next board meeting in order for each board member to closely review the data and make the correct decision. In either case we did have some very constructive dialogue and I believe who ever gets the bid will be able to do a fine job.
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2010, 06:11:46 AM »

This is an interesting story published in the Sunday Star Ledger. Its tells of other school districts decisions on co-curricular. 

   
Home > New Jersey Real-Time News > Education
Students have less, parents pay more as new school year begins in N.J.
Published: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 6:00 AM
 Jeanette Rundquist/The Star-Ledger
 

Matt Rainey/The Star-LedgerWoodbrook Elementary School 1st grade teachers Sara Stalowski and Veronna Karnish prepare Ms. Stalowski's 1st grade classroom for the school year. Edison is one of many N.J. school districts hard hit by funding cuts. Schools are opening to a leaner new year thanks to state school aid cuts.

When schools open in Sparta next week, there will be one fewer school. The cash-strapped district closed the 350-student Mohawk Avenue School to save $688,000.

Edison schools will open this week with nearly 150 fewer teachers, so high school students will be sitting in classes with as many as 30 kids. Full-day kindergarten was also eliminated.

Westfield parents will have to bring their checkbooks when their kids sign up for high school and middle school activities, including sports, drama productions and clubs.

After a rough-and-tumble spring of state aid cuts and widespread school budget defeats, parents, teachers and children are getting ready for a year like no other they have seen.

Almost everything, it seems, was on the chopping block somewhere: school librarians, elementary foreign language classes, full-day kindergarten, middle-school sports. Technology and supply budgets were cut, and teacher training programs reduced. At least one school district, Mount Olive, even furloughed its superintendent one day per week, to save about $37,500.

In many places, parents will also have to pay more.

Mount Olive High School students will need to pay $125 for parking permits this year, up from the previous $100, and the school board will begin charging groups such as Scouts or recreational sports leagues to use school buildings on weekends. The groups won’t pay rent, but now must cover facility costs such as custodians’ overtime, said superintendent Larrie Reynolds.

State-aid loss and a budget defeat added up to more than $6 million in cuts there.

"We’re going to have to get used to operating with less money," Reynolds said.

In Sparta, "subscription bus service," costing around $500 per child — the board has not yet determined the actual amount — will replace "courtesy busing" that once transported children who live too close to school to qualify for a regular ride to school, but on roads that are unsafe to walk.

Sparta also started high school activity fees, nicknamed "pay to play," ranging up to $325 per season for sports, cheerleading or marching band.

Maureen Sharpe, president of the Sparta High School Parent-Teacher Organization, said she and her husband are figuring out whether their sons will be able to play sports.

"I have two in high school, they both play sports, it’s going to add up," she said. "They’re going to college in a few years; do I want to spend thousands of dollars now? At the same time, they need to put it on their college applications."


Matt Rainey/The Star-LedgerWoodbrook Elementary School 1st grade teachers Sara Stalowski and Veronna Karnish prepare Ms. Stalowski's 1st grade classroom for the school year Thursday morning. Edison is one of many NJ school districts hard hit by funding cuts. Schools are opening to a leaner new year thanks to state school aid cuts.
Gov. Chris Christie in March sent school districts reeling with sweeping state school aid cuts, totaling $820 million, doled out in amounts equal to as much as 5 percent of each district’s overall budget.

The cuts, which he said were the result of "incredibly difficult choices" needed to close a $10.7 billion deficit, were intended to spread the pain around the state’s nearly 600 school districts. Many, mostly wealthier suburban districts like Westfield and Chatham, saw most of their state aid disappear. Some 59 districts, including Livingston, Millburn and Berkeley Heights, lost all of their state funding.

Large urban districts suffered bigger dollar amounts — $42.6 million was cut in Newark, for example, and $14 million in Elizabeth — but because they receive much more state aid, their cuts were lower as a percentage of state aid.

Christie encouraged teacher unions to take wage freezes, and urged voters to defeat school budgets in places where they did not.

Many districts are heading back to school after a double whammy of aid cuts and budget defeats. Edison is one of the largest suburban school districts in the state, with about 14,800 students and 17 schools. The district lost $9.7 million in state aid, then $6.5 million more after the budget went down. Property taxes will still increase $190 for the average home assessed at $176,400, said interim superintendent Ronald Bolandi.

"Between the state aid and the budget cuts from the mayor and council, that’s an enormous hit," he said. "We have no money to buy anything new in technology. We have no building money. We are still laying off 150 teachers."

The teachers union there struck an agreement with the board in early August, providing salary givebacks that saved the jobs of 123 paraprofessionals.

"In light of the governor’s rhetoric that education associations aren’t doing anything to help their people, this one did," Bolandi said.

Still, cuts are heavy.

Middle-school sports were eliminated, and middle and high school clubs were reduced by half. Class sizes throughout the schools are expected to rise. "High school could be up to 30. Probably will be," Bolandi said.

Mary Ellen Martin, whose younger daughter will be a sophomore at Edison’s J.P. Stevens High School, worries about crowded classrooms.

"I just don’t think it’s going to be a good thing," she said.

A volunteer who chairs the school’s Project Graduation party for seniors — which last year had to start charging admission of $30 because fundraising efforts that kept it free for students dried up — Martin said some of the teachers her daughter had last year are being laid off.

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In Westfield, voters supported the budget, but the state cut $4.2 million, or 90 percent of the district’s state aid.

The district instituted activity fees of up to $125 per child for participation in high school and middle-school sports, drama or musicals, as a way to raise $184,000 and maintain programs. A committee of parents backed the idea.

As in most districts now charging for clubs, membership in academic societies, such as the National Honor Society, is free.

But Westfield also had to cut about 30 jobs, from teachers to custodians. It can’t buy library books or new computers this year. The district reduced its new-teacher institute, which formerly lasted a week, to one day of training. There are fewer new teachers to train than in years past, however.

"It certainly is going to be difficult, but we have to focus on the students who are coming through our doors," superintendent Margaret Dolan said. "Whether we have fewer supplies or class sizes are larger, we have to make it work."

In Sparta, where the district also had to come up with the money to open a newly expanded high school, parents face steep high school student activity fees: $325 per season for sports, cheerleading or marching band; $200 to perform in a play; and $25 to belong to any number of clubs.

The district’s elementary and middle-school sports teams and clubs were cut, and Mohawk Avenue School, an older brick building with white columns, was closed for students. Administrative offices will stay, and the board is negotiating to rent out the rest of the building.

Sparta is also cutting 79 positions, including more than 40 teachers.

"When we got down to making choices, there were few choices left," board president Jennifer Dericks said.

Sparta school superintendent Thomas Morton said he believes realization of all of the cuts will hit parents once the school year starts.

"It’s all theoretical at this point," he said.

But with budgets struck and the school year arriving, educators there and in other towns say they will concentrate on doing their best to educate kids.

"That’s the challenge, to make the tone positive now," Morton said. "The cuts are all made. We’re asking staff to move ahead. We have a good school district. We hit a bump in the road, but we’re moving ahead."

Reynolds said in Mount Olive, despite everything, student achievement will be "sky-high."

"From the most important perspective, our schools are in very good shape, and headed in the right direction," he said.


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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2010, 04:16:20 PM »

It's disappointing to see the Board has taken this route for all sports and club. These were Co-curricular clubs that are now going to be just another sports club in town. The connection between the students and teachers that coached and advised for these clubs will be lost and the connection to the school will soon follow. The Board started this endeavor with good intentions of saving co-curricular activities and lost sight of their goal when they pursued the possibility of offering all sports and clubs. They have become so focused on offering all activities that they have given control of these activities to an outside organization.

When the Board took this route with the 5th grade basketball it became clear that this was no long a school activity, from the lack of input from the school as well as the district administration. The Administration stated that this would not be the case with this new “pay to play” option. However before the meeting was even over a member of the Administration made it clear that nursing was not a requirement for this new program because it was not a school activity?
This a slippery slope the Board is going down and I believe they will not recover from it. I have a feeling we will pay for this endeavor in legal fees as opposed to coaching fees.



Gene,
It does not appear that any of these districts took the approach that ours did in giving up control to an outside group.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2010, 06:17:41 AM »

Jamie:

You are correct, but they are charging fees for non-profits, and thier sports fees are higher than ours, but they did not outsource!

Time was a factor and with the hiring of a corporate fundraising company, the fees may go down.

The PAL is also seeking funds  for our students not to pay for student council, etc.

One can only hope these fees can be offset. I do agree outsourcing is not the way to go.

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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2010, 07:23:36 AM »

Jamie and Gene,
                       I have seen outsourcing work and I have seen outsourcing become  total night mare due to poor monitoring by the contracting officials. I believe to relinquish control that has been run by the educational community for many years can become a mistake. The key here is oversight. Despite how this turns out parents will still believe the school system has responsibility for these programs. I have been here almost 18 years and people still don't realize that many of the sport programs in Howell are not run by the Howell Rec. Department. My question is who in the BOE Administration will be providing contractor over site and administration to   this new program and will periodic performance reports and evaluations be given. I did not see andy performance evaluations report forms ion the bid package. I am one for giving this a try but whats next outsourcing teachers. I have spoken openly about outsourcing at some of our meeting and believe certain functions should be looked at and considered but only after a comprehensive study is performed.
                      I wish PAL all the best in the implementation of this program and hope that it is a success.
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2010, 08:18:55 AM »

Gene,
You mentioned that the other District from the Article are charging to use the facilities.  From what I read they will charge on weekends and only custodian fees not building use fees. I thought that was what our District was doing? Maybe you can refresh my memory. 
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2010, 11:24:11 AM »

Speaking as a community member and as a parent, I appreciate everyone's concerns regarding the after school programs. I would like to try and allay one. Even though the programs may or may not be run by school personnel, I believe that they will still have the feel of a school endeavor and therefore will keep school spirit alive. I had a fifth grader this past school year (and 2 years ago as well) so I am familiar with the fifth grade basketball program.  Believe me when I say that there was no lack of school spirit from the tryouts through to the championship game. The students (and their families) were out in full force cheering on their classmates.  The administration and personnel embraced the team as well, evidenced by their attendance at the games and their incredible excitement for the students.  The pride the everyone took in being a part of the school was immeasurable and heartwarming.  I don't think it mattered to anyone who ran the program ran, what mattered is that the program ran. 

With all due respect, it is my personal opinion that the decision made was a good one. I think it is far better to have all the activites available to the students, as they are students of the middle schools for only 3 years.  I think it is better to keep them available than try to figure out how to get them back. I think that it is better to try and preserve school spirit than to just let it fade away.

Again, it is just my opinion as a mom.
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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2010, 01:19:17 PM »

thanks Jeanette, Sue and Gene,
                                              I am glad to see you did the proper analysis and selected the one that will best serve Howell Township. I am sure that 321 will also be able to do a good job. I hope this works out. My only other question is that when I asked if the bid was based on low cost or best value I was told that cost was not the only factor. I would of like to see how the other factors were scored seeing how it did go to low cost.In either case I will not be labor it any longer. Its time to move ahead and concentrate on a successful school year.
               thanks for you feedback
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